Poważny film zostałby nie poznały tej protagoniści dorasta i pojmuje they can to get good reviews. But it does present a biased viewpoint, which is why Amazon now notes which reviews are written by people who actually bought the book. YES YES YES, please take a moment to write a review–I'm told your star rating still counts whether you've purchased the book or not. One last thing: 't let this get personal. objections to the book relate to the methods. I have no doubt that the authors are nice people who dogs; but that doesn't mean they are giving dog owners good advice. Yes, I noticed the sudden flood of 5 star reviews on the 27th practically all of which mention some sort of personal relationship with the authors, use words like kind and compassionate ways that look similar as to shriek copy paste, and none of which go into much detail about dogs! I have just liked all the negative reviews own review got blocked, probably because I linked to this blog. It's a pity, such backsliding training,… can I share a hopefull sign? The most popular animal the Netherlands at this moment is named Bumper, he is a malinois sheperd being trained as a police dog, his progress can be followed on YouTube. And Yes He is clicker trained. And he is soooo cute Socialisation at 8 weeks https: Rp_ZRRVG96o Tough dog, tough image complex with clicker training! I freely admit I couldn't finish the good doctor's post; too annoying. As annoying as she found the book. The smug self satisfaction of the positiveists is sad. Of course they have some great points, but not exclusive and they mis a few kty things. But I have the same observation for both the monks and the smug modernists…let me introduce bulldogs. For the monks, bulldogs are not looking for a leader; they are the leader. And that's not negotiable. For the modernists, go ahead, try positive reinforcement. See where it gets you. Smug modernists is a great name for a band. Not sure what it means this conversation. It is expected that once someone offers opinion based on experience and data, people who hold opposing view become defensive. whether we respond or act within that defensive emotion or let it pass before we respond is the real crux of the matter. Let's find our better selves again. Very happy to be the smug modernists camp. And not sure if positiveist is actually a word dog training? However, these kind of posts reflect concerns that part of the wider problem is we have millions of people happily posting millions of uninformed opinions that be forever burned into the cybersphere. They are often ferociously posted with a lack of scientific literacy and critical thinking ability. Particularly the case of 's experience on Facebook, what concerns me is the devotion that it seems to be OK to electrocute your dog the name of training because the seductive name of the collar lulls some people into a false sense of security that it doesn't really hurt, it just stimulates, neglecting or omitting the scientifuc fact behind the learning of it didn't hurt it wouldn't work. view is that the Monks condone abusing and traumatising dogs. The lack of education is something we need to empathise with and try to help as best we can. Because no amount of empirical evidence or data is going to change hearts and minds when people are not even aware of their own biased ways of thinking. As LisaW says, defensiveness often is the default. What we can do is support the PPG their pledge to teach dogs #shockfree Please sign it and share this widely because it is a positive action that we can do to try to change